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PostSubject: Manning Cleared to play! A KC connection. How bout that?   Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:22 am

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Peyton Manning's Medical Clearance Makes Him The Perfect Fit In Every Way For Kansas City Chiefs


Peyton Manning has gotten the green light. And that’s the news that everyone has been waiting for.

Here’s the scenario. Andrew Luck is the sure thing. Robert Griffin III is filled with potential. Matt Flynn is the intriguing back-up. Other than that, the quarterback class for 2012 between the NFL Draft and the free agency class is uninspiring. Sure, Ryan Tannehill or Brandon Weeden might turn out to be fine starting quarterbacks. Perhaps a team could do well with Jason Campbell under center. But for the most part, there is only one sure thing on the market. Even Griffin and Flynn are questionable properties, albeit exciting ones.

Obviously there are more than three quarterback needy teams in the NFL. The Chiefs might not count themselves among them. But it’s hard to find anybody fan or media who believes that Matt Cassel has proven himself to be the consistent winner as the starter for the Chiefs that the team hoped he’d turn out to be if given the full-time keys.

You live and die by the quarterback position in the NFL, and it’s hard to believe that even Scott Pioli would believe he’s set for the long term with Cassel. That said, if they are going to go after someone — that someone is not on the market. Unless that someone is Peyton Manning.

The only way the Chiefs are truly going to improve at the quarterback position is if Peyton Manning is healthy and available:

1. He’s finally been cleared medically. Word today is as follows: The sources said Watkins examined Manning recently in Los Angeles and concluded the stability in his neck would have allowed the quarterback to play this Sunday if the nerves in his arm had regenerated to a satisfactory performance level. Watkins also instructed the quarterback to continue an aggressive rehabilitation path that provides an optimistic outlook for Manning to play in 2012.

2. He has to be available for trade or signing. Watching the drama go down in Naptown between Colts owner Jim Irsay and Manning tells you all you need to know about their ability to co-exist while seeing other people (on the field). Andrew Luck is going to be the man. Chuck Pagano is going to be the coach. There’s no way Manning comes back for a victory lap with the Colts.

That means that Manning will be both healthy and available. And check the line in that healthy paragraph: he will likely be ready for this next season. Those were the magic words.

There is no way that Scott Pioli is going to go for Matt Flynn after already trying the back-up quarterback route and paying him rather well to do so. Cassel was the one experiment there, and it’s hard to imagine the Chiefs trading draft picks and paying a big salary to yet another unproven NFL back-up quarterback three years apart. Just won’t happen.

There’s also no way that Pioli trades up in this draft. Unless Griffin falls a bit in the draft order (not happening), then the Chiefs are out of it from the outset. The team has too many holes to trade so many draft assets. Whether or not the fans think they will go for it, the perceived value by the KC front office simply won’t allow it. That’s called cost-prohibitive and the Chiefs lack the roster depth to accommodate that loss.

That means that the team will not make a move at quarterback other than bringing in veteran competition for the starting job a la Jason Campbell or Kyle Orton. Unless someone else is in the mix.

Consider Manning. The Chiefs have the players at the right skill positions to make Manning happy. He loves a Dallas Clark type of tight end and he has the second coming of him that’s even an Iowa product in Tony Moeaki. He has a new first round stud in Jon Baldwin who should develop quite well to go with veteran receivers like Steve Breaston and, presumably, Dwayne Bowe, who continues to show just how amazing of a receiver he is year after year despite his detractors.

The running game would instantly become better than anything Manning has ever enjoyed in Indianapolis as well. Jamaal Charles will be coming off of major surgery and rehab, but he’s young, dynamic and things have been reportedly going well there. The Chiefs should be expected to add another body and Dexter McCluster also keeps things interesting. Manning is smart enough to help whoever the new offensive coordinator is to utilize all of the talent properly.

Even more, Manning is owed a $28 million roster bonus that will likely earn him his freedom from the Colts. It’s hard to tell monetarily what will happen between the Colts and their franchise icon, but some sort of deal will be made. The thing is, Scott Pioli and Clark Hunt are sitting on around that same amount of unspent cash from last year. In other words, if the Chiefs need to absorb a major payment and/or pony up something major for Peyton, the money is absolutely there and available.

More than anything, the Chiefs have a major public relations nightmare on their hands. They have an outstanding lawsuit filed against the team alleging age discrimination on the part of the powers-that-be in the front office. They have Todd Haley’s allegations (and other former employees) that the team had a paranoid, controlling, manipulative environment that even included phone tampering and spying. They have the unspent money that no one has explained well to the fan base who continue to pay exorbitant prices. In short, Arrowhead is a place to be.

One move changes all of that. Short of Andrew Luck, Peyton Manning is the prize of the off-season. This story is even overshadowing the Super Bowl of all things. This is the big fish. If the Chiefs were to get him, they instantly become not only the favorites in the AFC West but guaranteed of several prime time games. The reality is that not only would they instantly sell a million of anything remotely team-related, but any and all ill feelings would dissipate immediately. A PR nightmare needs a salve that heals all wounds. Peyton is that salve.

That might sound dramatic, but imagine the frenzy if Manning were to sport a Chiefs uniform. Imagine the trade announcement. Imagine the analysis that would ensue. Imagine the press coverage of practices, workouts and the lead-up to his first official game action since 2011. Once you’re done imagining all of that, then tell me it’s not worth the move. Thought so.
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PostSubject: Re: Manning Cleared to play! A KC connection. How bout that?   Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:06 pm

Any Chiefs fan that still has hope for Matt Cassel has no clue. The guy will be 30 years old in May and he still doesnt do the basic shit right. Theres a reason Charlie Weis didnt want to work with him. He's an awful QB. Always has been and always will be. Who gives a shit if he led the talent stacked Patriots to an 11-5 record? Who gives a shit if he took advantage of a piss ass schedule and led us to the playoffs 1 season? The goal of every team is to reach and win a super bowl. Matthew Cassel will never do this for us, or any other team for that matter. Im so freakn ready for this bullshit experiment to be over with. And anybody that realizes how pathetic this guy is should be too.

I dont care if Orton struggles in the red zone. At least he can get us there in the first place. I dont care if Manning doesnt have the arm strength he used to. At least he can read defenses and make smart decisions. Bring either one of them in and we will see a completely different team next season..or in Ortons case the same team that won 2 of the last 3 + Jamaal Charles.

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PostSubject: Re: Manning Cleared to play! A KC connection. How bout that?   Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:14 pm

Touchdown Bowe wrote:
Any Chiefs fan that still has hope for Matt Cassel has no clue. The guy will be 30 years old in May and he still doesnt do the basic shit right. Theres a reason Charlie Weis didnt want to work with him. He's an awful QB. Always has been and always will be. Who gives a shit if he led the talent stacked Patriots to an 11-5 record? Who gives a shit if he took advantage of a piss ass schedule and led us to the playoffs 1 season? The goal of every team is to reach and win a super bowl. Matthew Cassel will never do this for us, or any other team for that matter. Im so freakn ready for this bullshit experiment to be over with. And anybody that realizes how pathetic this guy is should be too.

I dont care if Orton struggles in the red zone. At least he can get us there in the first place. I dont care if Manning doesnt have the arm strength he used to. At least he can read defenses and make smart decisions. Bring either one of them in and we will see a completely different team next season..or in Ortons case the same team that won 2 of the last 3 + Jamaal Charles.



Finally someone who gets it!!!!!! Well said my man well said.
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PostSubject: Re: Manning Cleared to play! A KC connection. How bout that?   Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:54 pm

Lol what? Thats basically what I've been saying this whole time. Other than the I'm not pissed at Pioli because we haven't had better options up until now.

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PostSubject: Re: Manning Cleared to play! A KC connection. How bout that?   Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:42 pm

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Lol what? Thats basically what I've been saying this whole time. Other than the I'm not pissed at Pioli because we haven't had better options up until now.


Lol Rust I know I know. Actually I think I am the only one left who has a lil faith in Cassel. Albeit not much, but a small sliver. And I have even said if the better option comes along to jump on it. We all have an opinion that's why we are here. But what we all need to realize is we all want the same thing. To watch our team raise that trophy in January. GO CHIEFS!!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Manning Cleared to play! A KC connection. How bout that?   Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:07 pm

Chiefs won't be raising that trophy for a long time, if ever again. At least until we bring in a real QB..which isn't likely at all.

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PostSubject: Re: Manning Cleared to play! A KC connection. How bout that?   Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:29 pm

Well 99% of the time you are right, but if we DO still resign Carr, and also sign Soliai... we are talking about potentially having one of the most elite defenses in history... like the ones Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson QB'd to victory. Thats also assuming Berry is back to 100% and Siler being an upgrade from Belcher.. also Houston among others continuing to improve.

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PostSubject: Re: Manning Cleared to play! A KC connection. How bout that?   Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:36 pm

I don't think KC is to far away from making a few Championship runs. Tons of young talent. D is on the verge of being elite like rust said. I wouldn't be surprised.
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PostSubject: Re: Manning Cleared to play! A KC connection. How bout that?   Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:04 pm

According to Bob Fescoe of 610 Kansas City, the Chiefs have spoken "twice" with Peyton Manning's agent since the end of the season, and the "financials" have been determined as a good fit for Kansas City.
Manning is willing to accept a non-guaranteed contract, but the Chiefs could make a significant offer because they have so much salary cap room. While Fescoe is not known for breaking major stories, his report is a reminder that a high number of teams will likely at least inquire about Manning, driving up his market. He'll end up signing a lucrative, multi-year contract.
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PostSubject: Re: Manning Cleared to play! A KC connection. How bout that?   Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:13 pm

Mike Florio the PFT guy said last night in an interview(think it was him) he has a gut feeling Manning ends up in KC for some reason.

Hope to God it happens!

Dream QB situation next year.. Manning backed up by Clausen then Stanzi.

Damn you Matt Cassel... DAMN YOU!

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PostSubject: Re: Manning Cleared to play! A KC connection. How bout that?   Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:14 pm

Kansas City radio host says Chiefs, Condon have spoken about Peyton Manning
Posted by Mike Florio on February 23, 2012, 5:06 PM EST

Getty ImagesThe news of lingering neck problems that eventually would result in season-ending surgery for Peyton Manning first arose via a couple of Indianapolis radio hosts. And so it’s fitting, we suppose, that the first semi-concrete report regarding Manning’s next destination would come from a Kansas City radio host.

Bob Fescoe of 610 Sports writes via Twitter that he is “[h]earing” the Chiefs and agent Tom Condon “have spoken twice” about Colts quarterback Peyton Manning, and that Fescoe is “told” the financials are a “good fit” for the Chiefs.

Technically, no team may talk to Peyton or Condon until the Colts release Manning. But tampering happens all the time at this time of the year, and it becomes nearly blatant at the Scouting Combine in Indianapolis.

Manning makes sense for the Chiefs for various reasons. They have more than enough cap space, a relatively strong defense, a great young running back in Jamaal Charles, and competent receivers (who’d look a lot better with Peyton Manning throwing the passes). Last year, even after Charles, safety Eric Berry, and tight end Tony Moeaki were lost early to torn ACLs, the Chiefs pulled it together and nearly pulled off a second straight AFC West title.

The fact that the Chiefs play in the AFC West would make Peyton’s path back to the postseason easier than elsewhere.

With the AFC West teams playing the AFC North and NFC South teams in 2012, eight or nine wins will likely once again result in a playoff berth. Apart from the Ravens (home), Bengals (home), Steelers (away), Browns (away), Falcons (home), Panthers (home), Buccaneers (away), and Saints (away), the Chiefs play the Bills in Buffalo and, yes, the Colts at Arrowhead Stadium.

And so, 19 years after the Chiefs acquired Joe Montana for a late-career second act, it’s time to add the Chiefs to the list of teams that possibly could provide Peyton Manning with a place to chase another Super Bowl title. Or two.
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PostSubject: Re: Manning Cleared to play! A KC connection. How bout that?   Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:16 pm

I probably defend Cassel more than anything. But if Pioli makes this happen. I will be one of the first to say Matt who? Lol Considering Manning is healthy and can still throw this would be gigantic move for KC. GO CHIEFS!!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Manning Cleared to play! A KC connection. How bout that?   Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:43 pm

Is it too early to get my Super Bowl tickets!?!
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PostSubject: Re: Manning Cleared to play! A KC connection. How bout that?   Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:01 pm

Manning really would put us over the top.. we don't even need a QB THAT good to be a serious playoff game winning team with this defense and running game.

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PostSubject: Re: Manning Cleared to play! A KC connection. How bout that?   Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:34 pm

SylvesterMalone1978 wrote:
Is it too early to get my Super Bowl tickets!?!


I am more worried about it being to early to get my hopes up on this. But am already loving it lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Manning Cleared to play! A KC connection. How bout that?   Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:04 pm

Hot Damn! When you say the Chiefs and Manning in the same sentence it makes my dick hard! I hope Manning signs and proves me wrong. I just dont know that he will come here to KC.
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