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RustShack Giver of Life


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 | Subject: Casserly Mock Draft Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:06 pm | |
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By Charley Casserly | NFL Network Analyst Published: Feb. 15, 2012 at 02:57 p.m.
PICK NO.1 Colts
ANDREW LUCK QBSTANFORD Luck just may be most pro-ready QB I have ever seen.
PICK NO.2 Washington
ROBERT GRIFFIN, III QBBAYLOR TRADE: The Redskins move up from No. 6 to No. 2 in a trade with the Rams. Washington snags the potential franchise quarterback it's coveted for so many years.
PICK NO.3 Vikings
MATT KALIL OTUSC Kalil fills an obvious need to protect quarterback Christian Ponder.
PICK NO.4 Cleveland
JUSTIN BLACKMON WROKLAHOMA ST. The Browns need offensive weapons, and Blackmon gives them a legit No. 1 receiver.
PICK NO.5 Arizona
MORRIS CLAIBORNE CBLSU Tough to pass on RB Trent Richardson -- and I personally wouldn't -- but Claiborne fills a bigger need.
PICK NO.6 Rams
RILEY REIFF OTIOWA TRADE: The Rams move down from No. 2 to No. 6 in a trade with the Redskins. The Rams are here and need to protect Bradford better, Jason Smith is too expensive and injury prone.
PICK NO.7 Jags
QUINTON COPLES DENORTH CAROLINA They need to improve in their pass rush, Aaron Kampman can't stay healthy.
PICK NO.8 Panthers
DEVON STILL DTPENN ST. The Panthers continue to build a strong defensive line.
PICK NO.9 Miami
JONATHAN MARTIN OTSTANFORD Martin played left tackle at Stanford, but he can move to right tackle in the NFL.
PICK NO.10 Buffalo
WHITNEY MERCILUS DEILLINOIS With Buffalo transitioning to a 4-3 defense, Mercilus can fill a fresh void at defensive end.
PICK NO.11 Chiefs
TRENT RICHARDSON RBALABAMA Too good a player to pass up -- Richardson truly boasts top-10 ability.
PICK NO.12 Seattle
DRE KIRKPATRICK CBALABAMA The Seahawks won't pass on a quality corner.
PICK NO.13 Arizona
MIKE ADAMS OTOHIO ST. Adams can play left tackle, moving Levi Brown to right tackle -- his better position.
PICK NO.14 Dallas
DAVID DECASTRO OGSTANFORD Dallas continues to rebuild its offensive line.
PICK NO.15 Philly
LUKE KUECHLY ILBBOSTON COLLEGE The instinctive Kuechly fills the biggest need on Philadelphia's defense.
PICK NO.16 Jets
COURTNEY UPSHAW OLBALABAMA At some point, the Jets need to find a linebacker who can get to the passer.
PICK NO.17 Cincy
JANORIS JENKINS CBNORTH ALABAMA If I were in charge in Cincy, I would try to trade up and acquire Trent Richardson. But cornerback is a big need, too. (And the Bengals can address running back with their second first-round pick ...)
PICK NO.18 Chargers
MELVIN INGRAM DESOUTH CAROLINA Not sure what Ingram's best position is, but he has pass-rush talent and the Chargers can use some help there.
PICK NO.19 Bears
MICHAEL FLOYD WRNOTRE DAME Jay Cutler needs to get some stability at receiver.
PICK NO.20 Titans
MICHAEL BROCKERS DTLSU Good size, strength and upside for this naturally gifted underclassman.
PICK NO.21 Cincy
LAMAR MILLER RBMIAMI The Bengals likes to earmark positions for rounds, and I think they'll want to come out of the first round with a CB and an RB. Mission accomplished.
PICK NO.22 Cleveland
RYAN TANNEHILL QBTEXAS A&M Tannehill will need time to develop, but he has more upside than Colt McCoy.
PICK NO.23 Detroit
ALFONZO DENNARD CBNEBRASKA Martin Mayhew begins to address the corner position in the draft.
PICK NO.24 Steelers
CORDY GLENN TGEORGIA The front line has been the only weakness of the Steelers offense.
PICK NO.25 Donkeys
JEREL WORTHY DTMICHIGAN ST. The 310-pound Michigan State underclassman adds much-needed bulk to the Broncos' defense.
PICK NO.26 Texans
KENDALL WRIGHT WRBAYLOR The Texans would love another receiver to complement Andre Johnson.
PICK NO.27 Patriots
MARK BARRON SSALABAMA Despite his hernia issues, Barron is the best player on the board at a need position for New England. But, as always with Bill Belichick's Patriots, don't discount a trade out of the first round here for a No. 1 pick in 2013.
PICK NO.28 Packers
FLETCHER COX DTMISSISSIPPI ST. Cox can help the Packers establish an inside pass rush.
PICK NO.29 Ravens
PETER KONZ CWISCONSIN Konz will be Matt Birk's replacement.
PICK NO.30 49ers
ALSHON JEFFERY WRSOUTH CAROLINA San Francisco needs another weapon outside to take some of the attention away from tight end Vernon Davis.
PICK NO.31 Patriots
DONT'A HIGHTOWER ILBALABAMA Will the Patriots trade both of their first-round picks?
PICK NO.32 Giants
ZACH BROWN OLBNORTH CAROLINA The Giants have a need, but they will take the best player available. _________________  |
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BigRatt All-Madden

Posts: 1944 Join date: 2010-04-08
 | Subject: Re: Casserly Mock Draft Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:17 pm | |
| | RustShack wrote: | | BigRatt wrote: | | RustShack wrote: | | I attribute LJ's drop off to the abundance of carries he had that one year. Just like every other RB in history who came close to as many carries as him. |
I'm not buying that arguement! LJ was terribly slow! When you a slow power RB and your Hall of Fame Roadgrader is taking out of the equation, its pretty easy to see the difference. Not to mention they replaced him with an average LT. He was only 25 or 26 the year he had 416 carries. |
I think this is just more pure hate for LJ than anything. Also LJ put up 1,789 yards the year after Roaf retired... but besides that even if what you were saying were true, its pretty much common sense that any RB is going to take a hit in production when you lose a HOF blocker. Not to mention losing Tony Richardson, Willie Roaf, and probably whoever the RT was too. Actually Richardson might have been his biggest loss, because I'm pretty sure the two teams he played for after that their RB's also had career years behind him. BUT, LJ still managed to rack up 1,789 yards the first year without all those guys.. and without a good OC. So yes, I'm a firm believer that just like every other RB in history in the same situation, carrying the ball that many times will ruin your career. |
So I guess LJ had 1 good year without Roaf. At his age he should have been good to go. We got 2 great years out of him and a so so year in 2008 in which he was injured after 12 games. The rest of the years he was the Chiefs he rushed for 500 to 600 yards and less. Not great return for a 1st round pick in my opinion! We took him in the 20's so if Richardson turns out the same way at 11 its a wasted ass pick in a good draft. Its a shame we didn't have a change of pace back like Charles when LJ was here. In a bad draft then ya I would be ok with a RB at 11. |
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 | Subject: Re: Casserly Mock Draft Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:19 pm | |
| | RustShack wrote: | | When did McIntosh get moved to RT? Was that when we got Albert? |
I think it was. We drafted Albert in 08 and it seems like we picked up McIntosh when Roaf retired. |
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Posts: 3181 Join date: 2010-03-24 Age: 23 Location: Iowa
 | Subject: Re: Casserly Mock Draft Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:20 pm | |
| No I agree it sucks that LJ turned out that way, but thats why you don't give RB's that many carries. _________________  |
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Posts: 1944 Join date: 2010-04-08
 | Subject: Re: Casserly Mock Draft Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:32 pm | |
| | RustShack wrote: | | No I agree it sucks that LJ turned out that way, but thats why you don't give RB's that many carries. |
You may have an arguement for 416 carries being to much. I know the story about the other famous ones it happened to. I think most of those guys where in the 30 year old range where speed tends to fall off naturally anyway. But to say it ended his career at the age of 26? I dont know. Thomas Jones has had years where hes went 310 to 330. Adrian Peterson goes into the 330s pretty regular and even had a season where he had 363 but yet bounced back strong the year after. Those are ones that I know of off hand. To say that an extra 50 to 60 carries ruined a RB at LJ's age is bit of a stretch for me. If the NFL adds another 2 games to the season, then I say 380 to 400 carries could be a reality. I have never played the position so what the hell do i know? I just think LJ was never really a fast RB to start with and when the O line got some average players inserted into the lineup he got exposed for what he was. He should have never been a feature back in my opinion. They should have went out and got a change of pace of guy to help him. |
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 | Subject: Re: Casserly Mock Draft Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:35 pm | |
| Kind of the double whammy. Players also tend to slow down after getting paid too. Maybe even triple whammy with the off the field stuff. _________________  |
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 | Subject: Re: Casserly Mock Draft Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:38 pm | |
| And yeah he wasn't fast, but he is far from the first successful RB who wasn't fast. Sucks for him that the OL was on the decline, he had no supporting cast, his style was go downhill and through people, and we gave him the ball way too much. Herm killed his career, and Carl didn't bring in any RB's to lighten the load.
We've handled Charles the right way. Hopefully the injury didn't set him back anyways. _________________  |
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 | Subject: Re: Casserly Mock Draft Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:45 pm | |
| | RustShack wrote: | | Kind of the double whammy. Players also tend to slow down after getting paid too. Maybe even triple whammy with the off the field stuff. |
LJ was fucking asshole punk who didn't deserve the money! So yes, I guess I'm abit of an LJ hater. I enjoyed the production but was glad to see his ass go. |
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 | Subject: Re: Casserly Mock Draft Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:48 pm | |
| | RustShack wrote: | And yeah he wasn't fast, but he is far from the first successful RB who wasn't fast. Sucks for him that the OL was on the decline, he had no supporting cast, his style was go downhill and through people, and we gave him the ball way too much. Herm killed his career, and Carl didn't bring in any RB's to lighten the load.
We've handled Charles the right way. Hopefully the injury didn't set him back anyways. |
I'm crossing my fingers on Charles! The other guys at their positions will be fine. I just hope it doesn't cause him to lose alot of ability. I was reading that guys the 1st year back have down years as they have a hard time trusting the knee. Doctors say that it doesn't return to normal until the 2nd year.
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Posts: 3181 Join date: 2010-03-24 Age: 23 Location: Iowa
 | Subject: Re: Casserly Mock Draft Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:50 pm | |
| Hopefully the fact that is was the second game instead of the middle or end of the season helps. _________________  |
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Posts: 1944 Join date: 2010-04-08
 | Subject: Re: Casserly Mock Draft Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:18 am | |
| | RustShack wrote: | | Hopefully the fact that is was the second game instead of the middle or end of the season helps. |
Ya thats the plus about this situation. He's gonna have 10 months to rehab instead of 4 to 6. |
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